[identity profile] rocknlobster.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] eldwold
Mwahahaha. I was just teaching kindergarteners for three hours, so you'll pardon the kiddie-ness, but I like it.

Let's play Sybel Says!
In reality, it's not just Sybel, though...I'm going to flip open my book pretty much once a week, and find a passage or a quote I like and post it here! Feel free to comment, and ramble on and on about how you love it, hate it, what you think about the situation, how it reminds you of something you did the other day...anything!

    Sybel caught the Falcon's mind, felt the sudden sweep of earth beneath its flying.
    Ter. Go back to Tam. There is danger.
    There was silence a moment, before the drive of Ter's heartbeat and the run of fire in his veins. The he said,
    No.
    Ter. Go back to Tam.
    Ogam's child, ask of me anything else. But I have a pair of eyes to pick and a dark mind to still.
    Ter—

    She lost him suddenly, groped for him, amazed, and lost him again; and a whisper broke into her mind, strong, implacable.
    Sybel.
    "No," she said, and the word fell lifeless against the white stones. "No!"


That's on pp 84-85 of my version...which is the first Avon printing in '75, with Sybel and Gyld on the cover (see community icon, heehee).

This passage makes me think about...a couple things. First, I guess, losing something precious to you. Just the brutal shock of having something taken from you and not being strong enough to keep it.
Also...I've always thought it was interesting that Ter refused her this. Single-mindedness much? Did he realize how strong the enemy was? Either way, the whole idea of getting in over your head against better advice, is interesting. Sybel's like, "Dude, he's too strong, back off." And Tam is all, "No way, biatch, I got this one covered. Oh wait...maybe not so much." Hehe.
Also, it's one of the many places we see evidence of loyalty and affection for Sybel from the Legends.

Date: 2005-10-30 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pynelyf.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting! I haven't read the book in so long, and this excerpt reminded me that one of the things I found most stunning about it was that for the most part, each of the Forgotten Beasts have a distinctive voice--some more than others. I mean, Cyrin [the Boar, I'm not sure if I have his name right] has the most developed personality, perhaps, and that's why I love him the most. But even the Beasts that only showed up occasionally--like the Black Swan, who is soothing and elegant in both her speech and ideas--seemed to have their own personalities. This passage with Ter shows that same thing. I kind of wish there was much more time devoted in the book to the individual legends of the Beasts.

Hmmm. This also makes me wonder if her Beasts are based in extant world mythologies in any way. I feel like the idea of the Boar and riddling might stem from Irish mythology. And of course the Dragon is a common European trope as is the Black Cat. What about the others?

Date: 2005-10-30 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] of-carabas.livejournal.com
Plenty of lion stories - Hercules and such - but Gules Lyon sounds more like a heraldic device than a specific myth; he might be representing the general age of knights and royalty and such. Falcons are pretty common in myths, but Egyptian, Norse and Native American stories come to mind. And Swan-maidens are pretty common, but the only black swan legends that come to mind are an aboriginal story where black swans became men which doesn't seem relevant and the story of Swan Lake; I don't think Odile is all that much like Eld's Black Swan, but the Odile/Odette duality is a bit of a theme in the Liralen. And the Boar in particular reminds me of the Mabinogion - and the naming.

So they're all pretty common in myths; I imagine she didn't base them on any particular myths but went with the creatures that are sort of generically mythic.

I love Ter in that scene. To set a falcon on prey, to let him get so close to killing the sorcerer and thus save her and then to call him back - I doubt I'd have the heart to turn back, in his shoes. Er. Lack-of-shoes. In his feathers? Hmm.

Date: 2005-11-01 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pynelyf.livejournal.com
No, I definitely agree that McKillip's working w/ archetypes rather than specific myths. It's interesting b/c usually with her books, I feel like I can kind of map it onto one specific region.

I'm not sure if anyone has read the following, but here are some examples of what I mean. Song of the Basilisk strikes me as strongly Italian what with all the opera references and the vendettas and character names. The Tower of Stony Wood as Celtic not only in the mythology--the triple goddess motifs of sorts, the selkies etc.--but also the political struggle seems to stretch fairly neatly onto an Ireland/GB prototype. Alphabet of Thorn seems Egyptian, or at least the alternate world of Kane definitely is.

Anyway, the point of all my rambling was that in Eld, it seems much more eclectic.

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